Standing Alone or Standing Together? The Self-Defeating Stance of Modern Movements

Refusing intimacy without commitment and shaving heads as a statement of empowerment—could this be the most controversial trend yet? Join us as we unravel the complexities of a movement loosely inspired by South Korea's 4B movement, where only a select few women are embracing these bold declarations. With a mixture of humor and skepticism, we explore how this trend affects dating dynamics, questioning if it's genuinely empowering or just another flash-in-the-pan fad.

As we navigate through the tangled web of modern relationships, we ponder whether these actions are driven by true frustration or cleverly disguised marketing gimmicks. Listen as we dissect the sincerity of self-proclaimed celibates juxtaposed against dating app data, and unveil the motivations behind the trend. Are these women simply doing what men have desired all along by demanding commitment before intimacy, or are they unwittingly shooting themselves in the foot? Let's laugh, ponder, and debate the societal implications and emotional versus logical approaches to these polarizing issues.

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Speaker 1: 0:00

All right, let me break this down because it's actually kind of funny and a bit sad all at once. There's this trend where a handful of women are making these bold stands vowing not to sleep with men unless they commit, shaving their heads as a statement, that kind of thing. It's supposedly based on the 4B movement from South Korea. Although to call it a movement is generous, it's really just a tiny fraction of women taking part and interestingly it tends to attract the type of women men aren't generally looking to commit to long-term, aside from maybe a quick romp. So from the start it's a bit self-defeating and even self-destructive. And here's the kicker A lot of women are actually speaking out against it, calling it out for being counterproductive. Some of them even appreciate it because in a way, it removes potential rivals for the men they're interested in. Sure, it's evolutionary biology thinking, but you ignore those instincts at your own risk, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Right now, only a small percentage of women are actually following through with this idea of not sleeping with men unless they commit, or shaving their heads bald as a statement, and honestly I'm glad they're doing it. The moment I see a bald-headed woman, I immediately think she's one of those. They're just shooting themselves in the foot. The irony here is that men have been asking for more commitment before intimacy, so these women are essentially doing what men have been wanting all along. The only men who might feel the impact of the shift if it actually takes off are the ones who aren't serious about relationships, though honestly I doubt it will last, given the nature of these women. I mean, look at that whole short-lived man versus bear thing that blew up for a minute, then fizzled out just as fast. People realized it was completely skewed and based on ridiculous logic and faulty data. It was doomed from the start and I see this movement headed down a similar path. And let's be real, some of these movements are probably just schemes to sell products like take the whole blue bracelet thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the idea was planted just to sell products like take the whole blue bracelet thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the idea was planted just to sell something to them, likely by a woman-owned business that's right-wing or capitalist, someone who knows how to massage their ideology and stroke their egos just enough to cash in on it. They're getting fleeced and half of them don't even realize it.

Speaker 1: 2:22

As men, we see this stuff and, yeah, there's empathy there. We understand that some of these ideas come from a place of frustration or confusion and look, I know this might come off as patronizing and these types will probably label it that way and dismiss it. That's okay, because the proof is in the pudding. Just compare the lives we're leading to theirs and the difference speaks for itself. A lot of them say they're single, but in reality, that often just means they're casually seeing different people without committing. Now, sure, there are women out there who genuinely choose celibacy, and I respect that, but the loudest voices they're usually not practicing what they preach and dating app data supports that. So it feels like they're doing us a favor by taking themselves out of the dating pool and, yeah, maybe they should shave their heads. It makes it clear to me who not to waste time on. It's like a flag for us.

Speaker 1: 3:17

The difference between men and women in these debates comes down to logic versus emotion. Logic wins every time and men as a group tend to approach things more logically than women. Look, I know this sounds harsh and I'm not generalizing about all women, but there's a subset who think we're going to withhold intimacy until men commit and we're shaving our heads in solidarity. Great, I'm happy for them, but realistically, this resolve will probably last until they're out at a bar and some guy says the right thing. I try not to pick on these women too much, though. It's like picking on a five-year-old. There's a lack of awareness. Some of them don't seem to understand how things work. In many cases, their parents didn't equip them well and sure there are men with the same issue whose parents failed to guide them too.

Speaker 1: 4:07

The thing that gets me is if these women or men were taking these stands based on facts and real convictions, I'd have more respect for it, but the media has brainwashed so many people. Take that famous Trump clip, for example, when he said there's fine people on both sides. The media only showed that snippet, but if you watch the full clip, he condemns both the radical left and the radical right, before saying that he was clearly referring to non-radicals. The media, though, doesn't show the full picture. I found myself doing my own research before voting, looking at full clips from both sides. It was eye-opening. Trump turned out to be more moderate than he was portrayed. Now don't get me wrong. He's a grandiose narcissist, no doubt about it, but grandiose narcissists are actually easy to manipulate because they want to look good, so it's straightforward to steer them in a certain direction.

Speaker 1: 5:00

This is why I avoid talking politics with most people. It's exhausting. When I do talk about it, it's with people who can back up their views with data. If someone can challenge my perspective with facts, I'm all for it and I'll re-evaluate. I believe it's possible to hold conflicting ideas and see value in both, which is what cognitive dissonance boils down to. We often feel uncomfortable with conflicting beliefs, so we pick one to avoid that discomfort. But to me it's straightforward.

Speaker 1: 5:28

Both things can be true. Climate change, for example, is real and happening. Data shows we contribute to it. At the same time, governments and corporations are exploiting it. Both are true. Yet many people deny climate change just because it's been politicized. It's frustrating because it's such black and white thinking.

Speaker 1: 5:48

Life isn't black and white. Yes, there are things that are objectively wrong, like harming kids, that's clear cut. But most situations they fall into shades of gray. I grew up thinking things were black and white, but the military opened my eyes. There are billions of shades of gray and most things in life sit somewhere in the middle. It's just how it is. In the end, I just find myself shaking my head at all of it. Life is complicated enough without everyone trying to play these mind games or adopt extreme stances that don't even hold up to their own beliefs. And look, I'm all for standing for something, but at least base it on reality. It's just another reminder for me to stay grounded, watch people's actions, not their words, and maybe even have a little laugh along the way. At the end of the day, I think we're all just trying to find some clarity in the mess.